Mars Rover's Quest, Tesla's Orbital Fate, and a New Quasi Moon Discovery
In this episode
- Perseverance Rover's Exploration of Megabreccia: NASA's Perseverance rover has embarked on a new phase of its mission, exploring a region known as Megabreccia, filled with diverse boulders that may hold clues to Mars' early history. This area, believed to contain fragments from ancient asteroid impacts, offers a rare glimpse into the planet's geological past and could reveal insights about water presence on ancient Mars, as the rover systematically investigates these ancient rocks.
- Elon Musk's Tesla Roadster: Collision Risks: A study has emerged discussing the potential fate of the Tesla Roadster launched into space in 2018. Researchers liken it to a Near Earth asteroid, assessing its orbit and the probability of collision with Earth. While predictions suggest a 22% chance of impact over millions of years, the likelihood of a collision in the near future remains low, allowing us to breathe easy for now.
- Discovery of Earth's New Quasi Moon: A newly discovered asteroid, 2025 PN7, has been identified as a quasi moon of Earth, having been in orbit alongside our planet for about 60 years. This asteroid, which will remain in its current orbit for several more decades, adds to the fascinating dynamics of Earth's celestial companions, showcasing the complex gravitational interactions that govern our solar system.
- Chinese Proposal for Asteroid Apophis Philip: Chinese scientists are proposing a mission to flyby asteroid Apophis during its close approach to Earth in 2029. This ambitious plan aims to gather data on potentially hazardous asteroids and enhance China's planetary defense program, showcasing international collaboration in space exploration.
- Revolutionary Insights from Distant Supernova: Astronomers have observed a supernova, SN2021YF, revealing the inner layers of a star for the first time. This discovery challenges existing theories about stellar evolution, showing that massive stars can lose significant material before exploding, reshaping our understanding of how stars are structured and evolve over time.
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Steve Dunkley: Welcome to Astronomy Daily for another
episode. I'm Steve Dunkley, your host. It's
the 15th of September 2025.
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Steve Dunkley: Yes, and getting straight back into it.
Welcome to the 15th of September 2025.
Wow. This year is just skipping by.
And what a crazy year it's been. Welcome
back, Hallie.
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Hallie: Last week, the Perseverance rover began an
exciting new journey. Driving
northwest of the Soya Ridge,
Perseverance entered an area filled with a
diverse range of boulders that the science
team believes could hold clues to Mars early
history. The terrain we are exploring
is known as Megabreccia, a chaotic mixture of
broken rock fragments likely produced during
ancient asteroid impacts. Some
blocks may have originated in the gargantuan
Isodus impact event, which created a
1200 mile wide crater, or about
1930km just
east of Jezero. Studying Mega
Breccia could help us link Jezero's geology
to the wider region around Isidis Basin,
tying local observations to Mars global
history. The rover is now beginning
a systematic exploration of these rocks
starting at Scotia Felit. If they
are truly mega Breccia, they could contain
pieces of deep crustal material, offering a
rare glimpse into Mars interior.
These rocks likely predate the deltaic and
volcanic deposits we explored earlier in
Jezero Crater, making them some of the oldest
accessible rocks Perseverance will ever
encounter. They may therefore reveal
to what extent water was present on ancient
Mars. A key question as we continue our
search for signs of past life on the Red
planet. In short, by venturing
into this jumbled terrain, Perseverance is
giving us a front row seat to the Earliest
chapters of Mars story. You're
listening to Astronomy Daily.
Steve Dunkley: The probability of the Tesla Elon
Musk launched into space will hit the Earth,
or whether or not a Tesla will land on Earth
from space isn't something we normally be
thinking about. But after Elon Musk
actually launched one into space in 2018, it
is something that some people are apparently
contemplating. You may recall back six years
ago the famous Tesla Roadster being launched
into space on a rocket. And since then the
Tesla has traveled approximately
15,715 miles per
hour and covered a distance that would be the
equivalent of orbiting the sun four times
over. But now that it's out in space, is
there any risk of that Tesla falling back to
Earth? Believe it or not, some scientists
have already looked into this very question.
In 2018, a study published in
the journal Aerospace. Yes, they've actually
published the results. Some researchers
likened the Roadster to an asteroid.
The Roadster bears many similarities to Near
Earth asteroids or NEAs, which diffuse
through the inner solar system chaotically.
Though repeated close counter encounters with
the terrestrial planets and the effects of
mean motion and secular resonances.
A uh, lot of technical talk, meaning that
they come close sometimes to uh,
the planets. Initially, NEAs reach their
uh, orbits from the more distant main
uh built via strong resonances such as
secular V, uh6 resonance or
the strong 3.1 mean motion resonance with
Jupiter. How's that?
When entering these escape routes, many
NEAs are driven into nearly
radial orbits that plunge into the Sun. And
this would put NEA uh chances of colliding
with a UH planet very low at around
2%. But the Roadster is slightly
different. The 2018 article
continued that the initial Tesla ah,
orbit grazes that of Earth
uh, so one might expect an initial
period of enhanced collision probabilities
with Earth before it is randomized into a
more NEA like trajectory. It's
therefore unclear whether the Tesla uh is
likely to diffuse into
distant strong resonances and meet the same
fate as the wider NEA UH population or
whether it would first strike one of the
terrestrial planets. The researchers
estimated that the Tesla would draw closest
to Earth in 2047, when it
will come within 3.1 million miles of us.
After 100 years it becomes
impossible to make long term predictions.
But that didn't stop the team from producing
this statistic. They stated, however,
using an ensemble of several hundred
realizations, they were able to sustain
statistically determine the probability of
the Tesla colliding with the solar system
planets on astronomical timescales. With
this longer timescale in mind. They estimated
that there was a 22% chance of the
Tesla hitting Earth. The researchers
didn't exactly put a date on it, but at least
we can relax, given that this is on a
timescale of millions of years and that we
shouldn't lose any sleep over a Tesla landing
on top of us anytime soon.
Hallie: You're listening to Astronomy Daily, the
podcast with Steve Dunkley.
Something has just been discovered, but it's
been orbiting the sun alongside Earth for
decades and will continue to do so for
decades more. Our home planet just
got a new companion, or at least a newfound
one. We know the Earth only has one
true moon, but we've also known for a
while that our planet is currently
accompanied by seven other small asteroids
that seem to circle around us, even though
they don't really orbit Earth as a true moon
would. These objects, known as
quasi moons, tend only to inhabit Earth
accompanying orbits for short periods, years
or decades, sometimes centuries.
Now it turns out there's a new quasi moon in
town. Just discovered on August
29 by the Pan Starrs Observatory on
Haleakala, Hawaii, asteroid
2025 PN7 was quickly confirmed by
other observatories. Earlier
images of the object extend back to
2014. It now
appears to have been on a quasi moon orbit
for about 60 years, and it will remain so for
about 60 more. Eventually,
though, it will revert to a horseshoe orbit,
one that brings it periodically close to
Earth, only to back away again, never
completing a full circle around our planet.
Alan Harris of Space Science Institute, in a
posting on the Minor Planet's mailing list,
writes that its velocity relative to Earth of
3.4 kilometers per second, or
7,600 miles per hour, is higher
than would be expected from lunar ejecta.
He adds that it's most likely just an
asteroid that has trickled into a near Earth
orbit from the inner main belt. At
some point in the future, gravitational
interactions may eject it from Earth's
vicinity altogether. Some future
close encounter with Earth could put it on an
orbit that intersects either Mars or Venus or
both, harris writes.
Indeed, simulations carried out by French
journalist and amateur astronomer Adrian
Coffinit, who was the first to post on the
MPML group that this object is a quasi moon
of Earth, show that indeed this object is
likely to cross Mars's orbit at some point,
although that event is likely thousands of
years in the future.
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proposes a flyby mission to the asteroid
UH apophis during the 2029 Earth
uh encounter. Chinese scientists are uh,
proposing using a Pathfinder spacecraft
to make a flyby of asteroid Apophis
when it makes a close approach to Earth in
2029. The team behind the concept are
proposing a Pathfinder spacecraft flyby
of the asteroid Apophis during its close
approach to Earth uh in that year,
leveraging a proposed mission to deploy
asteroid spotting spacecraft in Venus like
orbits. The mission would consist of two
small satellites sent into a halo
orbit around the Sun Earth Lagrange point
1 to await the approach of Apophis
and transfer into a flyby orbit so as
to meet the asteroid shortly after its close
encounter with the Earth. The asteroid is due
to pass within the geosynchronous orbit belt
on Friday, April 13,
2029. The Crown Apophis
concept tags onto a proposed
asteroid Surveyor mission. That mission,
named CROWN and for which the preliminary
design is completed, would consist of six
heterogeneous wide field near Earth surveyors
in Venus like heliocentric
orbits and proposed to substantially improve
improve the searching and tracking of NEAs.
It would, if approved, form part of China's
asset for a planned comprehensive planetary
defense program. The science
objectives of Crown Apophis, according to
Zhang Yi of Sun Yat Sen University,
who presented the proposal at the
Europlanet Science Congress and Division for
Planetary Sciences joint session in
Helsinki September 8, would be to measure
the fundamental properties of potentially
hazard asteroids and the effect of
its close encounter with the planet Earth. It
would aim to observe how the movement of
material on Apophis is induced any dust
activity and how it interacts with the
terrestrial magnetosphere. The larger
44 kilogram spacecraft would use
combined chemical and ion propulsion
and carry a narrow angle camera,
microwave ranging Doppler system, a four
formation monitoring camera and a low
frequency radar. An 8 kilogram
CubeSat would carry some of the same
systems as the main spacecraft. This is a
very rare opportunity for planetary science
and there are many parties already
proposing missions or concepts and so we
don't want to miss this opportunity in China,
salee said. Launch is proposed to
be a yet to be identified rideshare mission
to geosynchronous transfer orbit and then
the spacecraft would slowly raise to reach
its L1 position. We hope to
coordinate with and complement other
missions including Ramses Destiny plus and
Osiris Apex, lee said, referring to
respective missions from the European Space
Agency, Japanese Aerospace Exploration
Agency and NASA, which are in different
stages of development, funding and operation.
In the latter case, Michael Nolan, who is the
deputy principal investigator of Osiris uh,
Apex stated in an earlier presentation on
the mission that congressional language in a
bill not yet passed includes funding for
Osiris Apex. Ramses faces
its own funding decision in November at an
ESA ministerial. Other smaller class missions
in the US and Europe are UH being proposed.
The value of multiple missions could be very
high, according to scientists at
EPSC dps. It's going to
enhance our scientific returns such as
cross verification and comparison. The
results provide scientific context to each
other and provide redundancies, lee said.
He added that the team, based in Macau, has
international partners from Brazil, Uruguay,
Spain and France, but is also seeking
further cooperation, which would likely
benefit the mission's chances of gaining
approval, possibly by the end of the year.
It is also looking at commercial avenues to
make the mission happen. Li was also involved
in another Chinese rapid response proposal to
study 99942 Apophis Ah, which
would have employed a swarm of cubesats
to make multiple flybys. China
is meanwhile working towards its first
planetary defense mission, a kinetic impactor
with a combined Surveyor spacecraft expected
to launch around 2027. The country
also launched a near Earth UH asteroid sample
return mission, Changwen 2 in
late May. China's first space mission
to an asteroid was flyby of the asteroid
tutalis in 2012, conducted by
repurposing the Chang' E2 lunar
orbiter for an extended mission.
Hallie: You're listening to Astronomy Daily, the
podcast with your host Steve Dudley.
A AH distant supernova exposed elements from
a star's core. The result
reshapes ideas of how massive stars
evolve. For the first time,
astronomers have seen the inner layers of a
star revealed in its final moments.
According to long standing theory, stars are
built in layers like onions, with each layer
composed of different elements that grow
heavier toward the core. While this
model is widely accepted, directly observing
a star's deeper layers has been nearly
impossible until now.
Astronomers using the Keck Observatory in
Hawaii have collected spectroscopic data from
a supernova first identified by the Zwicky
transient facility in 2019.
The event, designated
SN2021YF, occurred
2.2 billion light years away.
The Keck observations revealed ionis,
silicon, sulfur, and argon elements
never before detected in a supernova because
they are normally hidden beneath outer
layers. The finding supports some
theoretical predictions about the structure
of exploding stars, but also raises new
challenges. It is well established
that massive stars shed material from their
outer layers as they near the point of
collapse into a supernova. This
process has been documented many times, and
the new data confirm it again.
However, SN2021YF appears to
have lost far more material than any star
observed before leaving astronomers to
reconsider how extreme this stripping process
can be. The observations are
presented in a new paper titled A Cosmic
Formation Site of Silicon and Sulfur Revealed
by a New Type of Supernova Explosion.
The lead author is Steve Schulz, a UH
research associate at Northwestern
University's center for Interdisciplinary
Exploration and Research in Astrophysics.
This is the first time we have seen a star
that was essentially stripped to the bone,
said lead author Scholz. It shows
us how stars are structured and proves that
stars can lose a lot of material before they
explode. Not only can they lose their
outermost layers, but they can be completely
stripped all the way down to the core and
still produce a, um, brilliant explosion that
we can observe from very, very far distances.
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